Former CIA deep cover agent Gene “Chip” Tatum on the murder of Amiram Nir.

Abbreviated transcript of Gene Tatum’s appearance on the Rob Lori radio show out of Tampa, Florida:

ROBERT LORI:
Okay,  let’s  talk  about that. Amiram Nir  is an Israeli intelligence person. And I’m not sure whether he worked for the government or not. Tell me more about Amiram Nir.

GENE TATUM:
He  was  the  Prime  Minister  of  Israel’s primary consultant on terrorism.  He was associated with Israeli intelligence.  I’m not going to say it was Mossad. It was Israeli intelligence of some sort — because of his knowledge.

And when you say “Mr. North’s time  to  build  these  camps:” He designated that to General Alvarez of Honduras — he was the army Chief of Staff — and to Enrique Bermudez(sp?), the commander of those North camps. *They* actually built those camps.

I think I saw Mr. North  one  time in Honduras — no, twice.  I’m sorry.

ROBERT LORI:
So in terms of “taking out” Amiram Nir, what  was  your  role  in that?

GENE TATUM:
I was to fly a 4-man  team  to a southern Mexico town, outside of
Morelia.  Mr. Nir was involved  in  an  avocado  packaging  plant
which,  I  don’t  know  if  it did or didn’t package avocados, or
packaged something else.  I  was  not  involved in that.  I *was*
involved in eliminating him before he  could  appear  before  the
commissions to testify in 1989.

I  flew  a  4-man team in.  There was a radio beacon put in, with
the frequency given to us,  put  on  Mr. Nir. We triangulated the
position.  The 4-man team went to that position to eliminate  Mr.
Nir. However apparently there were two signals, and one was in an
aircraft,  a  small  aircraft.   I think it was a Cessna T-210, a
small, charter aircraft.

When I fly a mission as a combat helicopter pilot, into a foreign
country, we normally  fly  in  what’s  called  “the Archer Mode,”
which is an armed mode.  We  would  fly  an  aircraft  with  full
Stingers  on  one  side  of  the pod, and we would fly a, about a
one-quarter to one-third charged  missiles  on  the right side of
the aircraft, so that we could scare away base aircraft based  in
the  country  that  we  were in, rather than shoot them down.  We
would rather scare them away than shoot them down.

Unfortunately, this missile, the  proximity missile that I fired,
took down the aircraft and killed two people on board.

ROBERT LORI:
And one of them was Amiram Nir?

GENE TATUM:
That’s correct.

ROBERT LORI:
The shoot-down took place at a time when the Iran-Contra  scandal
was on the front pages of American newspapers, right?

GENE TATUM:
That’s right.

ROBERT LORI:
So  what’s your theory about why your superiors wanted him “taken out?”

GENE TATUM:
I believe that  he  could  have provided embarrassing information
about the involvement of Mr. Harari, directly linking,  probably,
Israel,  to  the  manufacturing  and  trafficking  of cocaine.  I
believe that he could implicate  the Vice-President of the United
States, George Bush,  in  the  trafficking  of  cocaine.   And  I
believe  he  could implicate several others, including Mr. North.
And I believe that he was prepared to implicate them.

ROBERT LORI:
Who ordered you to “take out” Amiram Nir?

GENE TATUM:
It came through  Major  Rodriguez,  who  actually  ended up being
Felix Rodriguez.  Most of the orders that we would receive  would
come  through  that  particular  mode.   Now  this,  you  have to
understand,  was  after  Iran-Contra.   So  the  order  came from
Rodriguez, but it was actually from George Bush.

ROBERT LORI:
Now how do you know it was from George Bush?

GENE TATUM:
Because I spoke to Mr. Bush concerning it.

ROBERT LORI:
And how did you speak to him? Did you speak to him face-to-face?

GENE TATUM:
Via land line.

ROBERT LORI:
And what did he tell you?

GENE TATUM:
He explained to me that Mr. Nir was a threat, that he was  trying
to expose the movement and the trafficking, and that he needed to
be  “taken  out.”   And  he  told  me  to pick up my Archer Team,
relocate  to  El  Salvador,  that  tactical  fuel  [unclear]  and
tactical beacons would be set up.   I  was to move my aircraft to
those beacons for re-fueling, and eliminate Mr. Nir.

ROBERT LORI:
Now what was your frame of mind, as…

GENE TATUM:
Let me qualify that:  I was also told that this was  an  approved
mission  by  the  Mossad and that it was primarily for the Mossad
that we were doing this.

ROBERT LORI:
So the Mossad viewed  Amiram  Nir  as  a renegade agent, and they wanted him “taken out” as well.

GENE TATUM:
That’s the understanding that was given to me, yes.

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